Lumo vs Venice
Lumo has the higher grade on both axes: Safety 6.3 against 5.0, and Privacy 8.4 against 6.4.
Lumo
Proton's AI assistant with zero-access encrypted chat history and guest access
Privacy
8.4/ 10
Strong
Safety
6.3/ 10
Fair
ID never required KYC 0 Docs reviewed Full review →
Venice
AI chat and API that keeps conversation history on the user's device
Privacy
6.4/ 10
Fair
Safety
5.0/ 10
Caution
No ID mentioned KYC 1 Docs reviewed Full review →
Side by side
| Lumo | Venice | |
|---|---|---|
| Category | Private AI | Private AI |
| KYC policy | ID never required | No ID mentioned |
| Custody | N/A | N/A |
| Sign-up | No account needed | Email optional |
| Open source | Yes | No |
| Tor onion address | No | No |
| Coins | Not published | BTC, USDC |
| Pay with | Not published | Crypto |
| Fees | Free tier; Lumo Plus listed from $9.99/month billed yearly | Free tier plus paid plans; credits priced at 100 credits = $1 |
| Founded | Not published | 2024 |
| Jurisdiction | Switzerland | United States (Wyoming) |
| Incidents on record | 0 | 0 |
| Published tests (180 days) | 0 | 0 |
Only Lumo
No registrationNo email neededNo phone neededOpen sourceLegal entity disclosed
Both
No-logs policy
Only Venice
Nothing distinct
Where they sit among private ai
Questions
Is Lumo or Venice safer?
Lumo has the higher Safety grade: Lumo 6.3, Venice 5.0, out of 10.
Does Lumo or Venice require KYC?
Lumo is KYC level 0 (ID never required). Venice is KYC level 1 (no ID mentioned).
Which has more incidents on record?
Lumo has 0 and Venice has 0 documented incidents in the registry.